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radioastro
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Posted - 10/07/2006 :  22:23:09  Show Profile  Visit radioastro's Homepage  Send radioastro an AOL message  Send radioastro an ICQ Message  Click to see radioastro's MSN Messenger address  Send radioastro a Yahoo! Message
How is your truth defined? Does it require spirituality, or do you make your own destiny?

When you evaluate someone else for relevance, i.e. when you determine whether or not you can trust them, do you weigh their spirituality in your decision?

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catwoman
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673 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2006 :  16:40:15  Show Profile
I do want to answer this. It is just that it will take me sometime to think about it and put in the proper words what I want to say. I just don't have that time right now.

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Molly
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Posted - 10/12/2006 :  13:45:54  Show Profile
Same here.
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Orange Blossom
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Posted - 10/12/2006 :  18:06:22  Show Profile
Radio, can you define spirtuality, do you mean their essence of spirt, or do you mean their religion? Or both?

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Shiroe Makabe
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Posted - 10/13/2006 :  13:21:48  Show Profile  Send Shiroe Makabe an AOL message  Send Shiroe Makabe a Yahoo! Message
Spiritualiy and religion have nothing to do with one another. In fact, religion is often an excellent way to ensure a person has NO spirituality. Religion is merely an organized hierarchy that enforces rules and collects members. True spirituality comes not from religion but from within.

Edited by - Shiroe Makabe on 10/13/2006 13:22:31
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radioastro
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  20:31:04  Show Profile  Visit radioastro's Homepage  Send radioastro an AOL message  Send radioastro an ICQ Message  Click to see radioastro's MSN Messenger address  Send radioastro a Yahoo! Message
I do intentionally leave the definition of Spirituality to the individual. It's important, because the word 'Spirituality' can mean different things to different people. To some, it will be their religion. To others, it will be an inner strength, or inner belief system, devoid of, in addition to, or outside of religion.

Much of what I am getting at, with this topic, is trying to see how different people consider spirituality in reference to whether or not they can trust the relevance of another person. Most of us probably have a religious background of one form or another. I'm curious how that transcends to the real world, and to your ability to trust, or relate with other people's opinions? How important is their religion, or their spirituality, to your belief in the things they have to say?

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catwoman
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Posted - 10/16/2006 :  23:14:32  Show Profile
I feel a bit like Martin Luther King Jr. here, but I don't care what religion or spiritual practice people have. I just go with my "gut" feeling as to whether or not I can trust someone. I know many people of all religions and spiritual practices as well as those who are agnostic or atheist who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw them. I also know many people of those same practices and beliefs as well as those who are agnostic or atheist who I would trust with my life. It all comes down to my gut feeling followed by the persons own actions.



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Rainbo
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Posted - 11/17/2006 :  13:28:20  Show Profile  Send Rainbo an AOL message  Send Rainbo a Yahoo! Message
IMO we all have our own inner truth. Whether we apply it in a positive or negative manner is up to us.


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black widow
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USA
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Posted - 02/05/2007 :  07:08:51  Show Profile
There is only 1 God!! 1 TRUTH!! 1 EVIL!! My experience is that there are people out there that hide behind religon. Some struggle with a foot on each side. So to me religon doesnt matter. Evil comes in many forms and if you read the bible you will find that it warns us of that very topic. God help us all !!!!!
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dragonslayer212
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Posted - 02/06/2007 :  19:25:28  Show Profile  Send dragonslayer212 an AOL message  Send dragonslayer212 an ICQ Message  Click to see dragonslayer212's MSN Messenger address  Send dragonslayer212 a Yahoo! Message
Interesting post black widow are you saying faith is what is important or that we are lost without God or both? BTW, I think God helps those who help themselves.

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heykayde
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Posted - 02/06/2007 :  20:02:02  Show Profile
Well Mr. R. you certainly opened up a wide discussion here.

I think if you are looking at it from a spiritual point of view, which I take as more of an inner strength, power, belief, goodness, etc. then it doesn't matter what religion they beleive in, if I feel their intentions are good, I would trust them.

On the other hand, if they are coming off as trying to convert me to their beliefs in an argumentative, or onesided view, with no regard to my or anyone elses opinion, then I think it would effect how I feel about what they have to say.
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Outlier
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USA
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Posted - 06/13/2007 :  10:33:58  Show Profile
Hi radioastro and everyone. Spirituality to me is going deep within yourself and discovering who you really are. It is learning to develop your intuition. I don't determine anyone relevance by their spirituality. I too use my gut and observation of an individual, not to judge, but to know with whom I am dealing with. For example, if a biblican and I were to meet we, obviously, wouldn't have spirituality in common, but we might have other areas where we did.

I finally found this place. ;-)
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coon
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Posted - 06/13/2007 :  18:17:32  Show Profile
Welcome Outlier.

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radioastro
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USA
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Posted - 06/13/2007 :  18:21:11  Show Profile  Visit radioastro's Homepage  Send radioastro an AOL message  Send radioastro an ICQ Message  Click to see radioastro's MSN Messenger address  Send radioastro a Yahoo! Message
Welcome to the forum, Outlier! You picked my favorite (if seldom used) topic on the forum for your first post.

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coon
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Posted - 06/16/2007 :  14:03:17  Show Profile
to me, spiriuality has little or hopefully no relationship with religion. i was raised catholic/methodist cause my folks had't resolved the religion of their minions. i attended a private baptist university (achedemics..sp). i got all of the wrong things, and very few of the right things. in my walk with my Lord Jesus Christ, and G-D, i've discovered that religion divides rather than melds.
at this point of my life, i believe in 'free grace', your for the taking. no good works or anything else. we just aren't 'good enough to buy our way to heaven'; therefore only by the grace of G-D am i saved.

all you gotta do is acknowlege that Jesus is your savior and Lord, his shed blood allowes us to come into the presence of G-D


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catwoman
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Posted - 08/09/2007 :  09:28:41  Show Profile
Outlier, sorry I didn't realize you posted in this thread or forum. If I had noticed it earlier I would have responded.

I agree with your post. Since we are all human we are bound to have something in common with one another. However, since each human experience is different from another there are also bound to be differences. I think the key to everything is to look for and concentrate on the common things, the common good, rather than the differences. Organized religion seems to me, to concentrate more on differences, while in general spirituality looks for what we have in common.

Radio, I didn't know this was your "favorite (if seldom used) topic on the forum". That's awesome.

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