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Rainbo
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 Posted - 11/17/2006 : 12:15:39
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I have heard about a shot you can get that works very well with helping people who have failed to quit using other strategies. It costs about $400 and is supposed to block the receptors for nicotine. Someone my boyfriend knows had the shot a year ago and still has no desire for smokes.
Has anyone heard of this?
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First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.
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snowflake
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Posted - 11/17/2006 : 12:55:25
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Nope,but if you hear any more info on this please update me.I 'm willing to pay if it's working
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DonnaDon
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Posted - 11/17/2006 : 13:04:36
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| I HAVE heard of it. I would like to find more out about it myself. With my latest revelation in my health Im sure it will be the first thing Im told I have to do. I was planning on asking the cardiologist about it when I go. I tried Wellbutrin but could not stand the taste it left in my mouth all day and nothing I did would remove the taste. |
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Rainbo
Contributing Member
USA
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Posted - 11/17/2006 : 13:06:58
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Wellbutrin worked just fine for me until I returned to this job lol. If I am able to find out more info, I will post it here.
I did hypnosis two years ago and it would have worked but my roommate at the time deliberatly set out to sabatoge me. She wouldn't go with us to get hypnotized and she couldn't stand that I had no desire for a cigarette so she took to chain smoking in front of me.
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Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?
First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.
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HVAC Girl
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Posted - 11/17/2006 : 15:55:49
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I've done the shot. It does stop the craving for cigs but beware of the potential side effects..
Here's how it worked for me..
You have to have someone drive you home because the meds make you feel very drunk. They give you a shot behind each ear of a med that I believe help sea sickness. Then they give you a shot in each of your upper arms. Don't remember what that med was. Within 30 mins. you have 'cotton mouth' and are feeling very drunk and just want to go to sleep. When I got home I could bearly make it up the stairs from the drunkeness feeling and giggles but finally got to bed and crashed for about 6 hours which they say is normal. The next day you are to put a patch (sea sickness patch) behind the ear and wear it for 3 days. They also give you some pills to take. I went to work but was having difficulty in concentrating. It would take me several tries to dial the phone and I would stare off in space for long periods of time. The cotton mouth was still present. So bad that food and drink tasted awful. They said that the cotton mouth would be with you for about two weeks while taking the meds. Hugh chunks of memory were missing over the next few days. I was finding evidence of things I did that I didn't remember doing like cooking a meal (and eating it), starting projects, conversations with people that I didn't remember, driving down the road then wondering where I was going, etc. This loss of memory made me nervous so I quit taking the meds. The cotton mouth slowly went away and it took a good month before I felt I was mentally on top of my game again. For a week at work even after stopping the meds, I had things all screwed up. Conversations I had with customers that I didn't remember. Tasks that I was to do that I didn't remember being told about etc.
With all that being said, the shot worked as long as you take the meds and if you can afford to mentally 'check out' for awhile.
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Rainbo
Contributing Member
USA
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Posted - 11/17/2006 : 16:04:29
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sorry to hear that hvac.
Glad to hear from someone who tried it though. Gives me more things to consider.
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Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?
First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.
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MOTV8D
Contributing Member
USA
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Posted - 11/17/2006 : 17:45:19
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Maybe that's what makes the med's work...you forget to smoke.  I had heard of this about 2 years ago but I'm not keen on injecting chemicals into my body until there are long term studies on it's effects. Having read HVAC girls account, I most definately am not keen on getting a shot behind my ears!
There is also the laser treatment that is new. I had heard about the Anne Penman (?) center for smoking and weight loss. They are international and there is a center in the area of Summerlin and Colonial. A few weeks ago at my doctor's office, they had a flyer there that the medical center is now offering the laser technique. $150 for each treatment, three treatments recommended, free follow up treatments for six months.
Because a doctor is offering it, do you think that makes it more legitimate and likely to work?
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FortMyersMike
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Posted - 11/17/2006 : 17:49:13
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Having a licensed MD involved would increase credibility from this man's perspective.
Ask doc what the numbers are on:
People who dunnit
People who it worked for
People who failed on it.
Erase the top 5% or 10% from each category and look at the data in the middle.
Then see where you think you fit in.
And made the decision as to whether this likely will or will not work for you.
Good luck!
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Rainbo
Contributing Member
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Posted - 11/17/2006 : 17:59:59
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Actually the reason I posted about it is I want to find out more about it. Do you remember what the drug was hvac?
I will look into the laser thingy too. I want so bad to quit. I can't beleive it's harder to do then kicking drugs.
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Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?
First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.
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MOTV8D
Contributing Member
USA
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Posted - 11/17/2006 : 22:09:27
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I found this article warning about the side effects of this shot. It is old but it pretty much says what HVAC said.
http://no-smoking.org/dec04/12-28-04-1.html
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MOTV8D
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USA
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Posted - 11/17/2006 : 22:13:04
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Have you seen this?
http://www.nosmoke2000.com/
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Rainbo
Contributing Member
USA
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Posted - 11/17/2006 : 22:35:29
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That second one sure looks worth a second look. Thank you Mo.
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Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?
First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.
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P.G.
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Posted - 11/18/2006 : 13:00:23
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I know 2 people who had the shot. Both went back to smoking w/in a month or so.
I know 1 person who had the laser treatment. She was smoking as she went in the office. After she came out, she had no desire to smoke even tho her cigs were right there in her car. Went out drinking for New Year's & didn't have a desire to smoke. It's been almost a year & she's still smoke free! Of course that's just one person's experience, but it sounds like a promising treatment w/out the side effects of the shot.
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Rainbo
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Posted - 11/18/2006 : 13:02:22
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That is huge. The worst thing about quitting is drinking because cigarettes and alcohol go so well together.
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Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?
First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Debbie
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Posted - 11/19/2006 : 20:02:48
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A poster from the News Press forum, "Old Farmer" said he got the shot and it was the best money he ever spent. He didn't mention any follow up meds. You can go to www.stopsmokingnaples.com to learn more about it. I think they also have a clinic in Ft. Myers.
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CeeJay
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Posted - 12/13/2006 : 15:10:59
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groovykat
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Posted - 12/21/2006 : 20:05:35
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I also know someone who has done this shot+meds. He has been smoke-free for at minimum 6 months now.
My employer has offered to pay for this treatment for anyone in the company who wants to do it. I want to, but I'm not ready yet. Way too much stress right now in my life.
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CeeJay
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Posted - 12/26/2006 : 08:53:00
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I'm not ready either Christmas this year was stressful and I have 1 stressful person in my life.
I'm going away tomorrow for a few days all but one person is a non-smoker...errrrrrrrr....I'll hear the whole time I'm with them smoking is bad for your health..... another errrrrrrr. My comback is I know people who have not touch a cigarette and they have heart disease, cancer...etc.. Also, my grandfather smoked camels non-filter and had a few highballs every night he lived to be 95. He died from old age not due to smoking.
If I quit now I would be a raving maniac. So I'm not ready. It must be the hot blooded Italian in me...lol |
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Radar
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USA
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Posted - 12/26/2006 : 20:46:39
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We took Chantix, its a pill. You take it for a couple of weeks, and the drug starts to take effect, but you still smoke. Eventually, the drug works, and when you smoke it just isn't the same. You stop smoking the "just cause I can cigs". After a month or so, you just don't really care that much about smoking, because you don't get the pleasure from them that you use to. They are not UNPLEASANT, but it isn't like smoking. You know what I mean. It quite simply takes all the joy out of smoking. Eventually, you just bite it and quit. You don't really miss it that much, because you have been smoking for (however long you want) a while, without the pleasure. It works. The downside is..... I gained about 20 pounds, which I attributed to the pills. The pills cost about $125 a month. Cheaper than smoking......
I had a VERY stressful situation come up about 2 1/2 months after I had completely quit. I was tempted, smoked, and now.... well I am smoking a couple cigs a week. I am still "quitting" not smoking 2 or 3 packs a day like before, but I have been off the pills, and I don't plan on going back. When I smoke 3 or 4 cigs in a day, I feel really bad. Like you wouldn't believe. Cigs are really a poisen. I know that now, like I've never known it before. |
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groovykat
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Posted - 12/29/2006 : 15:47:16
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Wellbutrin was working for me 2 and a half years ago when I tried it. I was losing that desire and the cigarettes tasted like crap. Then my dad died and I became a fiend again. Once I get his estate settled, then I am going to quit for good. I swear it.
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Orange Blossom
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Posted - 12/31/2006 : 08:23:28
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Mr. OB informed me yesterday that today he is quitting (again) COLD TURKEY. Any words of wisdom for him?
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MOTV8D
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Posted - 12/31/2006 : 08:33:43
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Originally posted by Orange Blossom
Mr. OB informed me yesterday that today he is quitting (again) COLD TURKEY. Any words of wisdom for him?
The more appropriate question would be, "Any words of wisdom for you?". I'm sure Mr. OB is NOT going to be a pleasant person to be around.
The last time I tried to quit, I used Wellbutrin. It really didn't do anything to help the cravings. More or less, it stablilized my mood so that I wasn't a sobbing boob one minute and a psycho bitch the next.
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Orange Blossom
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Posted - 12/31/2006 : 08:37:31
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I have wellbutrin on hand...willl I need it, or Him? Lol.
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MOTV8D
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Posted - 12/31/2006 : 08:43:17
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Knowing your temper, he might need it, too, so he doesn't push your buttons.
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MOTV8D
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Posted - 12/31/2006 : 08:44:49
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I think I'll ask my doctor about Chantix.
I don't understand why health insurance doesn't cover a portion of stop smoking meds. In the long run, it would be cheaper for them to pay for the meds than all the health complications from smoking.
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dragonslayer212
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Posted - 12/31/2006 : 10:02:14
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Originally posted by Orange Blossom
Mr. OB informed me yesterday that today he is quitting (again) COLD TURKEY. Any words of wisdom for him?
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Drink lots of water, especially when the urge hits. I quit cold turkey about 15 years ago and had even lost the urge. Can't even remember why I started up again, but I did.
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Orange Blossom
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Posted - 12/31/2006 : 15:51:09
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Lots of water? Okay I'll tell him. And thanks Motv8d, I have my own "find the happy place pill" so lets just hope we can get thru this. I think his inspiration is the fact that my uncle recently was diagnosed with a Cancer, and it's smoking related. Who would think that cancer of the Ureter tube is almost always smoking related...go figure.
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MOTV8D
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Posted - 01/17/2007 : 22:23:19
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I got an Rx for Chantix from my doctor yesterday. Unfortunately, my insurance doesn't cover it.  I think I read that a one month supply will cost like $125. Bummer. I guess that is one good way to keep the weight off while quitting smoking -- can't afford to buy food AND medication.
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UNNSKYLD
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Posted - 01/18/2007 : 10:27:45
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i just cant seem to get the $500 together for the shot, but i always find a few bucks for a pack of cigarettes. what a dope i am...soon, i swear, soon i will quit for good. 
MOT, your post reminded me of some information that may be helpful to someone out there regarding prescription assistance. i know a single mom with 4 kids(who had some insurance) was able to get help with a hardship from one of the programs. just something i thought we could pass along. https://www.pfizerhelpfulanswers.com/ProgramList.aspx
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MOTV8D
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Posted - 01/18/2007 : 17:01:29
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Thanks for the link. I checked it out and don't think I qualify for any of their programs. But on the positive side, my Father might. I forwarded the info to my parents. He takes a ton of meds and the costs are killing them. This could help them. Thanks again.
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Rainbo
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Posted - 01/23/2007 : 14:29:20
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Originally posted by Radar
We took Chantix, its a pill. You take it for a couple of weeks, and the drug starts to take effect, but you still smoke. Eventually, the drug works, and when you smoke it just isn't the same. You stop smoking the "just cause I can cigs". After a month or so, you just don't really care that much about smoking, because you don't get the pleasure from them that you use to. They are not UNPLEASANT, but it isn't like smoking. You know what I mean. It quite simply takes all the joy out of smoking. Eventually, you just bite it and quit. You don't really miss it that much, because you have been smoking for (however long you want) a while, without the pleasure. It works. The downside is..... I gained about 20 pounds, which I attributed to the pills. The pills cost about $125 a month. Cheaper than smoking......
I had a VERY stressful situation come up about 2 1/2 months after I had completely quit. I was tempted, smoked, and now.... well I am smoking a couple cigs a week. I am still "quitting" not smoking 2 or 3 packs a day like before, but I have been off the pills, and I don't plan on going back. When I smoke 3 or 4 cigs in a day, I feel really bad. Like you wouldn't believe. Cigs are really a poisen. I know that now, like I've never known it before.
That's not bad. I can handle $125 a month. I looked at Chantix yesterday, but my insurance does not cover it. Glad to know it's not outrageously expensive. Am going to give the hypnosis another try first though since it is guaranteed and I can do it again for free.
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